On two very interesting meetings in Vienna 2007
29 Jul 2007 Summary comments and my personal insights from the meetings.
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At the two days Neuropsychoanalysis congress titled “neuro-psychoanalytic perspectives on depression”
Hugo Bleichmar argues the case for the need to develop an integrative clinical psychoanalytic model of depression which takes into account various pathways leading to different subtypes of depression. Aggression, guilt, narcissistic disorders, persecutory anxieties, ego deficits, masochism, identification with depressive parents and fixation to traumatic events in which the subject felt helpless are factors intervening in the genesis and maintenance of depression. Relationship between aggression and depression exist and aggression can turn into depression. Guilt can be independent of aggression. Psychoanalytic interventions that could be pertinent for a given subtype of depression, but which could prove counterproductive when applied to another subtype were discussed.
Helen Mayberg from the
Jaak Panksepp from the Department of Veterinary Comparative Anatomy, Physiology, and Pharmacology,
Georg Northoff from the Department of Psychiatry, Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics,
David Taylor from Psychotherapy Evaluation Research Unit, Tavistock Centre,
My impression from the meeting (which I voiced in the discussion) is that in order to really bridge neuroscience and psychoanalysis neural computation insights must be introduced. Otherwise the congress seems to equate a regular neuroscience meeting with metaphorical remarks comparing neurological findings with psychoanalytic concepts. Neuralcomputation is a ‘hard tool’ to really bridge psychoanalytic phenomena and neuroscience. For example the concept of ‘transference’ relates to activation of neural ensembles representing past experience (with relevant other .i.e., object) instead of current experience (real-time input) this can easily be modeled with a highly connected Hebbian-trained Hopfield neural-network. The mathematics that these networks provide may one day allow for signal-processing-based identification of transference in the brain.
Immediately after the Neuropsychoanalysis meeting there was a one-day ENF 2007 meeting conceived and organized by Dietmar Dietrich from the computer and electrical engineering faculty of the Vienna Institute of Technology.
This was a really unique meeting bringing engineers of artificial intelligence (AI) and Neuropsychoanalysts together to discuss if emotions can be implemented in AI machines. This off course entails ‘Emulating the brain’ which was the title of the meeting.
Etienne Bernard gave an overview, written together with Brigitte Lorenz, about AI focusing on computational models of emotions. Then Dietrich talked about the technical realization of a neuro-psychoanalytic model of the mind, the constraints and vision when trying to map Sigmund Freud’s model and Luria’s dynamic neuropsychology into a machine. The talk involved models of visual integration and language concept representations and an outlook on layered structure architectures that would be required for future developments. Mark Solms representing (and heading) the Neuropsychoanalysts talked about the psychoanalytic stand point being subjective and that brain events in comparison are different observational perspectives. He described the ‘mind’ in terms of ‘consciousness’ ‘intentionality’ and ‘agency’ working for the body to maximize the chances of the body to survive and to reproduce. Aaron Sloman from school of computer science in
My comments which I voiced privately in the dinner discussion with Aaron Sloman included the need for brain models to provide simulations of mental disorders. The models should emulate the brain to the extent that when psychopathology is simulated it can generate a testable prediction for finding the neural basis of mental disorders in real brains of real patients. Actually this is what ‘NeuroAnalysis’ is all about. According to Aaron we are still far away from that.
The Neuropsychoanalysis meeting Hall
Paula working hard perfect organization
Mark Solms concluding the congress
Happy N-PSA participants
after meeting
more after meeting
ENF 2007 opening
Dietmar Dietrich - The conception of the meeting was his;
it requires a good deal of courage to organize such a meeting
From left, Mark Solms, Etienne Barnard and Dietmar Dietrich, answering questions
From left, Jaak Panksepp and Aaron Sloman
Meeting dinner-talk with Aaron Sloman (was exciting for me)
Saying something
More pictures from the ENF 2007 meeting
More pictures from the ENF2007 dinner